Nicole Daedone and Eli Block explore the subtle mechanics of connection, moving beyond surface advice like “just listen” or “speak up.” They unpack what it actually takes to be present with another person—how true listening involves both active engagement and a kind of quiet, receptive awareness. The conversation touches on the balance between doing and being in relationship, the way gender roles can shape how we connect, and the importance of moving past relationship rules into something more alive and real. Drawing from lived experience and real-time awareness, they reveal how even the moments of tension or silence can become openings for deeper intimacy, if we’re willing to meet what’s actually there.